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[vintagemovieart]

Yeah mylar is great, but expensive. Especially when you buy the tailor made stuff. That's why I recommend "buy a roll"and do it your self.

There are some great stories out there and Ed would know quite few. I do like the Royal theater story. I think John Warren wrote it up ones. I think it was brought up on NSFG as well.

Best,

dario.

[movieposterodyssey]

vintagemovieart, on Apr 28 2008, 11:03 PM, said:

Ok, so there is a bit of a misunderstanding. Climates good or bad or even perfect wont protect a poster from acid. All it takes for a poster that is stored in a perfectly climate controlled room, is contact with cardboard or even a wood flat file cabinet and you will have acid migration.

A cool dark and dry poster cache found in Canada, will most likely be in much better shape than a collection found in?? a sweltering, hot, humid critter infested back room south of the border.

Having said that, please note that Pollutants contribute heavily to the deterioration of Paper. The two major types of pollutants are gases and particulates.

Gaseous contaminants---especially sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, peroxides, and ozone---catalyze harmful chemical reactions that lead to the formation of acid in paper. Paper becomes discolored and brittle.
Particulates---especially soot---abrade, soil, and disfigure materials.

Valuable paper items should be stored at relative humidity between 45 and 50% and at temperatures between 18 and 20?C.

Best,

dario.

ahh,even in the ideal climate dangers such as gases still exist in non-controlled rooms.Never even thought about that.
Interesting,Dario.Thanks.
Glad you're here to help us with this stuff.

Anthony

[Bulla]

movieposterodyssey, on Apr 30 2008, 12:59 AM, said:

ahh,even in the ideal climate dangers such as gases still exist in non-controlled rooms.Never even thought about that.
Interesting,Dario.Thanks.
Glad you're here to help us with this stuff.

Anthony

Sorry to change the subject but I had to share this.

I'd bought one of these

http://www.archivalsuppliers.com/prodinfo....number=613-2943

and was awaiting shipping costs to the UK, just got them today, $121.77 !!! Guess its to be expected due to the size of the thing but nearly $200 for a cardboard box is a little too much for me ! Back to the drawing board. Dont spose anyone in the UK can recommend something similar over here ? Or is it time to think about some DIY

Thanks

Bulla

[spectredog]

Curious to see what everyone thinks of this? Seems easier and more compact than blueprint files...

It comes with adhesive tabs that you can stick to the mylar sleeves... Looks like an interesting, space-saving, spouse-friendlier, but expensive alternative.

Here's the link:

http://www.easifileusa.com/product_info.ph...37305e4fa859b88

And here's a dealer that sells cheaper:

http://www.office100...easifile-1.html

Any thoughts?

[Supraman079]

spectredog, on May 29 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

but expensive alternative.

Yeah, I'm not sure I would/could spend the money on that. That's a lot of posters you could buy and or frame.

Chad

This post has been edited by Supraman079: 30 May 2008 - 5:44 PM

[Eatbrie]

spectredog, on May 30 2008, 06:11 AM, said:

Curious to see what everyone thinks of this? Seems easier and more compact than blueprint files...
Any thoughts?

Yes, but by having it vertical like that, you take the risk of your posters... I can't find the word... you know, waving over time. I would personally stick to a flat file cabinet. I have 2 in my garage, I can put 200 posters per drawer and it is awesome.

T.

[poorly_paid_usher]

you guys would hate the way i store posters, i use a 2 old cardboard boxes.

[HazardousOperations]

I think I should point out a small warning concerning metal cabinets. Metal conducts heat very well, which makes it very susceptible to changes in temperature. This in turn can lead to condensation, so be careful to avoid direct contact of a poster with the cabinet itself (use acid free paper to make sure of that). Of course this is only a worry if you neglect your storage and subject it to wide variations in temperature, but if you ever are subject to a let's say a powercut or something check your posters. I've heard this from a curator of antique books at my University. He also mentioned that there's no better way of storage than paper on paper. Other materials can either cause "unnatural" friction or put unnecessary pression on uneven surfaces like foldlines. This also meand that you should not stack too high up.


Wim

[speedomodel]

Has anyone tried VisiPak heavy wall plastic tubes? They look like a good alternative to the heavy-duty Yazoo Mills mailing tubes lined with Mylar that I currently use. They also come in the 4 and 5 inch diameters I want. Apparently, the PETG plastic they're made from is acid-free. I don't know yet how much they cost.

[speedomodel]

I just ordered some of these PETG tubes. VisiPak only offers thin-walled 48-inch tubes in the 4 and 5-inch diameters -- unless you're prepared to order in a very high volume. Expect to pay about $8 for a 4x48" tube and $10 for a 5x48" tube. Not exactly cheap. :| Moreover, they're sold in cartons of 12 and 7 respectively. FYI: VisiPak sells regular plastic end caps by weight, not volume, so you'll end up with a lifetime supply. Also, you can only get the nice Tuff Pak caps for the 4-inch tubes. I tried cutting these down to size with a PVC saw and a variety of band saws, but found simple 5-1/2'' Lexan scissors worked best.

Anyhow, so far this seems like a reasonably good means of storage if you have a lot of large format, linenbacked posters and no place to lay them flat.

[movieposterodyssey]

Welcome speedomodel!
I mighta missed something but looking at the site I don't really see anything about them being 'archival in any way. Looks like just a different type of shipping tube.If the case,might wanna continue the 'mylar lining' process with these.

movieposterodyssey

[speedomodel]

movieposterodyssey, on Jul 17 2008, 06:37 PM, said:

Welcome speedomodel!

Hey, thanks.

Quote

I mighta missed something but looking at the site I don't really see anything about them being 'archival in any way. Looks like just a different type of shipping tube.If the case,might wanna continue the 'mylar lining' process with these.

Right on, I couldn't find much info either on it's archival usage. I'm basing it's archival qualities on the fact it's a essentially a polyester film like Mylar, has been FDA approved for food contact, and has been certified by Eastman for photographic storage. I'm willing to give it a try. Fingers crossed that I'm not crying miserably in 10 years or so.

[ormazd]

This is a great thread. As a poster collecting newbie, I hadn't even considered the effects of acid paper. I have a roll of Tyvek left from my attic renovation, and that should work well as poster dividers.

[Crusty]

Bulla, on May 6 2008, 03:10 PM, said:

Sorry to change the subject but I had to share this.

I'd bought one of these

http://www.archivalsuppliers.com/prodinfo....number=613-2943

and was awaiting shipping costs to the UK, just got them today, $121.77 !!! Guess its to be expected due to the size of the thing but nearly $200 for a cardboard box is a little too much for me ! Back to the drawing board. Dont spose anyone in the UK can recommend something similar over here ? Or is it time to think about some DIY

Thanks

Bulla

I truly share your pain, Bulla. I have been scouring the net for storage products sold in the UK that are aimed at collectors like us and keep hitting a brick wall. I eventually decided to eat the costs of ordering from the USA and put in a rather large order to BagsUnlimted. When they gave me the shipping quote, the price for the freight was almost as much as the products themselves! They were very nice about it when I had to give back the order, but I could not justify spending all that money on shipping.

Anyway, watch this space. I have been on a mission lately and am currently in discussion with a UK based manufacturer who might be able to produce storage sleeves in sizes for the movie poster collector. Hell, if it all goes well I may even quit my day job! Ha ah ah ha!

[BobaFett02]

I have usd these before, my friend has over a hundred mylar acid free sleeves in various sizes all from here http://www.selwyns.com/ They do quad sizes etc... (for uk i think this is the only option)

I have about 8 sleeves and from experience i can say heavy duty quad sleeve can hold 12 posters per side which is 24 posters per sleeve for archiving purposes.

very handy.. i going to be ordering more soon.
Bri

This post has been edited by BobaFett02: 12 August 2008 - 10:39 PM

[marklawd]

It is not difficult to ask a UK company such as Preservation Equipment to make up (100 micron) polyester pockets in the size you want. I always order AO size less 2 or 3 mm either side - these fit in a plan chest then and comfortably take a quad. You do normally have to have a x100 minimum order though to make it worth their while. I've been meaning to ask them if they can do a US three-sheet size.

Mark